User talk:Peter Waugh

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Welcome to Ballarat and District Industrial Heritage Project! We hope you will contribute much and well. You will probably want to read the help pages. Again, welcome and have fun! C.K.Gervasoni 18:15, 7 December 2013 (EST)

Thanks for the welcome, and looking forward to contributing.--Peter Waugh 20:23, 7 December 2013 (EST)

Corner thoughts, see pic []

Here's a thought - the Chicago MOS on punctuation formatting (inc. lists) is written as a bulleted list.--Peter Waugh 19:30, 4 June 2014 (EST)

Peter, please check out our Editing Guide - the choice of style/editing was made after considerable consultation after the project had been running for a year. This included NOT BULLETING the lists we have under street locations, biographies, etc. - but reserving bulleting for use within individual pages. Please give me feedback about things that I haven't added to the Editing Guide that should be in there. It also included not BOLDING the name in the intro paragraph beneath the page header. These and other decisions were taken as measures to distinguish this wiki from Wikipedia - in the effort to have serious academics engage with us. Thank you for all the work you've done so far - loving seeing somebody seriously engaging with this project on a mostly daily basis. The Hotels entries are looking great! --Beth Kicinski 12:42, 17 July 2014 (EST)
I really like the subheadings you've put in the Street Locations. --Beth Kicinski 12:42, 17 July 2014 (EST)
Beth, shall endeavour to the right thing as per the Editing Guide. I have only got about quarter of the way through simply listing the hotels, and finding fascinating things as I go. I will be away for the next three month, so I won't get much done. I will be back in October, so it would be good if we could catch up then, because I have a few questions. --Peter Waugh 16:56, 17 July 2014 (EST)
Whatever you're doing, have a great time! Look forward to catching up later in the year. Next week I'm starting a recruitment drive on campus - to set up a leadership team for some projects. If I get responses (fingers crossed) we will run some training sessions later in the year. (Not just basic how-to sessions, but also why we're doing things certain ways.) I'll keep you in the loop. - --Beth Kicinski 09:33, 23 July 2014 (EST)
Back in town, and resuming editing. --Peter Waugh 16:35, 27 September 2014 (EST)


Needed classifications

  • Locksmith
  • Gunsmith
  • Fitters and turners

Another pub

I've created a page for the Ballaguy Hotel, with a redirection from Balaguy Hotel. To be honest, I don't know which is the correct spelling, so feel free to switch them around if I got it wrong. The references I have use both spellings.--Neil Huybregts 19:16, 28 January 2015 (EST)

A redirect like you created is the best way to deal with alternate spellings. I had to use them for some pubs where ithe name Half Way House Hotel was sometimes Halfway House. Who knows which is right.--Peter Waugh 23:04, 28 January 2015 (EST)

And ta for the Black Hill Rush item. Looks like you've already found the Ballaguy Hotel page(s).--Neil Huybregts 19:21, 28 January 2015 (EST)

I did, and thanks for putting them in. I did find another reference to Balaguy - which had something to with an order of Freemasons, I'll find the link again and send it to you.

Default sort

What does DEFAULTSORT do?--Neil Huybregts 19:16, 28 January 2015 (EST)

It changes the alphabetical sorting for categories. Categories are the link at the bottom of a page which link similar items. I have used them on the hotel pages, with a category called "Hotels in Ballarat". If you click on that it will take you to a list of all other Ballarat Hotels. This list is automatically generated in alphabetical order by the article name. This is reasonably straightforward. If however the artcle was about a person, lets say Herbert A. Davis. If I put him in the biography category, it will put him under the article name which starts with Herbert, so it will place him in the H section. I really need to have him in D for Davies. So the DEFAULTSORT will change it - I type in the code for DEFAULTSORT and type his name as "Davies, Herbert A" and it will now sort the order as D. (Have a look at the page to see how it is done)

Categories are especially useful for items that could be in more than one list - so in Davies case, he is included as a biography, as an entry in the Ballarat Avenue of Honour, as a motorman on the trams, as a conductor, and as part of the bus company. The lists are auto generated, in alphabetical order, and easy to do. So I suppose in a nutshell, DEFAULTSORT allows you change the alphabetical sorting of an article name.--Peter Waugh 23:01, 28 January 2015 (EST)

Yet another pub

Queen's Arms Hotel is new, and I've added an item to the Excelsior Hotel

--Neil Huybregts 15:29, 1 February 2015 (AEDT)

I am slowly working through Hargreaves book from the 1940's, it will be interesting to see if we located anymore than he did by manually searching the papers.--Peter Waugh 22:58, 1 February 2015 (AEDT)
So if I find one in the first half of the alphabet, I'll get excited.--Neil Huybregts 10:18, 14 February 2015 (AEDT)

The son of yet another pub

Victoria Hotel (Steiglitz) --Neil Huybregts 16:14, 13 February 2015 (AEDT)

To do

  1. Withers on pubs--Peter Waugh 09:56, 30 October 2015 (AEDT)
  2. Withers where things were
  3. first pub


Hey Peter,
What have I done wrong in the Hotels category? Look at the bottom of

Clare (Cgervaso)

Hi Clare, nothing wrong really, just "over categorised". So a pub in Daylesford for example only needs the category of "Hotels in Daylesford". The "Hotels in Daylesford" is already included in the "Hotels of Victoria" category. Adding both to the one hotel causes it to also appear at the bottom of the page in question.--Peter Waugh 16:26, 16 September 2016 (AEST)
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